Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. Sure just i used to own a keltec p11. Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. And we have to like it enough to carry it. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. I chose. Id have to disagree with the cpx2s place on the list even though the company had growing pains. Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. One of the finest pocket guns out there. It was his first time shooting it (or any gun) ever. Ive no complaints. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? No thanks. By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. Thats a lot! Very small would suggest either real fanboys or real haters. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. But the reset on the trigger was so ridiculously long Id often miss follow up shots because I handt let it out far enough to reset. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. Do they now have 12 round mags? BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. Oh, it fits my hand great too. So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. He didnt even require them to be positive. Ultra smooth shooters. I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. and wrote the entire line off. I certainly wouldnt be happy. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. I have 2 of them. Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. I just dont see the silent u in that. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic You must not even be able to read. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. Glad I didnt see mine. Too small, too weak, too much plastic. I agree, the P3AT is my go to light carry gun. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. No aluminum. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. Have you put more than a box through it? I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. This gun is selling better than ever years later. Or having the mag cleaned and inspected? So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. The guns with the lower number of people voting are probably irrelevant no matter what their scores are. To each his own . Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. You get two shots, a single-action-only He does not know how to use it. The Picos have a huge fan base. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). Combined with the teflon-like nickle finish and the worlds stiffest recoil spring, its almost impossible to rack. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. And I especially enjoy its clever name. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. CM40 is my summe4 carry. Literally, it is.) After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. Do not yank the magazine friends. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly the fact you just dont like it? None. Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. Look at the back of the slide. The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. I also have the Kahr. This gun is budget-friendly and chambered substantially (9mm). It is not made for quick magazine changes. The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. I have thousands of rounds through the Picos and trust me, they hold up like the tank they are. Really it sounds like some pretty crappy customer service. Sleek design, totally snag proof. He says it is a blunder. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . The thing stinks. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. In regards to the Cobra a lot of people dissing the gun are those who fire hollowpoints through it. His post show that he is just posting without knowledge of the firearms. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. capacity. How is it possibly at the top of the list? My shooting buddy has an LCP. I love this gun for the price, and just because its not made by Glock means nothing to me. It shot pretty well overall, but the trigger sucked. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. Anyway, all just my opinion here. My advice. I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? Too many women wind up dropping the gun which the thug grabs and then uses on the woman. I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. She shot both, along with a used Beretta .380, and chose the Sig despite the price being just about double at the time. Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. This article was amateurishly conceived and executed, even if only judging by the hit-piece commentary on the SCCY. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. Did you give them Cyrillic numbers to rate with? On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. I shoot pocket guns all the time. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. He talks about having to yank the Mag. And surely have not shot one or very little. I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. BUT! You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Non shooters called me a liar that we could do it, but any bad guy within 30 yards is in great danger, even though it has been a long time. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. These arent big enough vote pools anyway. We both agreed, the TCP trigger was superior to the LCP. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. Given all that, wouldnt it be nice to know which pocket guns you can rule out right off the bat? With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. I used to have one. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. So the recoil is stout. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. But unlike those highly rated guns, the Hellcat IIs rating is in the toilet. Thats not exactly The TRUTH About Guns. based on what your stupid opinion? The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock Notify me of follow-up comments by email. While the LCP II will accept the same 6 round magazines as the original LCP, it also will not slide lock on the last round with those magazines because they were not designed to do so. Funny. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. Kahr CW 380. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. The SCCY model CPX-2 is a fine lightweight pistol that shoots a stopper round 9mm. It would likely be more meaningful. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. SuccySuckeySuckySucySukyNope. The Beretta Tomcat, though only .32, much fatter, and blowback, is a far, far superior gun. Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. The CPX-2 fails to fully eject one shell per magazine. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. You can buy 1911s now. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. There is an author named John Lott, who became a best seller from an unknown very quickly by doing exactly that. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the The wisdom of the crowd phenomenon? TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. Any failure rates? http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. The trigger is exactly like a double action revolver. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. Obviously you really do not get into pocket guns or spend time with folks that do. I have a SCCY too. the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. I happen to own a SCCY and have never ever had a FTF or FTE its a very light and compact gun in a 9mm platform with 11 rounds WebSome derringers, like the Bond Arms derringers, are brilliantly crafted guns. Great little pistol. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. I really wanted to like the gun. No problems what so ever. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. No issues to complain about. If you spend any amount of time online, youve seen product rating systems on Amazon, Netflix, Yelp, etc., usually in the form of star ratings. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. Im curious as to how you derived your +/- error bars and why you are calling 25-50 votes statistically significant. Those are awfully small sample sizes compared to the number of guns of each make/model in production. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. Horrible, awful trigger. Ruger LCP Max 2. All you did is look at numerical reviews on the internet. But still, Im sure there are worse ones. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. IT is NOT stiff at all. I broke the firing pin on the first day. I just cant see myself ever paying for a gun called SuCCY! I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. The Manual says clearly not to dry fire the gun without snap caps. Thanks for your post. I totally agree. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. Keltec P11 will take S&W 669 mags10,15,20 rounders..just like the Marlin Camp Rifle.. Slicked up and did a Golden Loki Fluff & Buff on my Kel-Tec P3AT after I bought it years ago. Funny mine have always worked. By the way, break down the Kahr and compare it to the Pico. I recommend them to people all the time, but I do caution that, as is to be expected with a DAO, the trigger is long. Wisdom of the crowd is an awfully unknown thing to be making life-and-death decisions on. Ive heard too many bad comments and complaints about the I.O. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. How many times are there accidental discharges from soft triggers? I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. Split chassis, cracked frames, split rails, broken take down pins. You sound smart. Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. I like mine. The mag will spring out when done correctly. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. I own a hp380. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. Remarkable build quality. The Pico is top notch. I would have bet the farm that the Ruger LCP was the worst small pistol ever created. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a How is the P3AT above the middle of the list? When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. Only time I tried one I did not like it. Total joke. Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. It went on to launch a revolution of micro .380 handguns. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. . Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. If its good Ill spread the word. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Im pretty surprised the P3AT isnt on this list. Arguably one of the best and most popular pocket pistols, the pf9, was not on the spreadsheet. No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock +1. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. Makes me question the authors intentions in this article. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. Im glad it ended well, but if he hadnt scored a first round hit he would have been screwed for real. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. It seems like the all metal euro pistols of yester-year beat the new models in spades. Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. Bottom line, a lifetime warranty isnt worth squat if they cant fix the problem and their only answer is to blame the customer. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! None. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. Its manageable. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. The .380 ACP semi-automatic pistol is one of the most popular categories of concealed carry weapons in the United States and has been for years. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. IMHO it packs a great punch for a pistol that slips away in my pocket. what a waste of time. No problem with the SCCY at all. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. Im not going to bash talk the CPX-2 , but its going to take me a while to get use to it. And just recently bought my Third Pico. Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? NOPE! I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. Once in a great while, a firearm becomes so popular that it becomes a cultural icon. Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. Small, accurate and reliable. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. just kidding 32,490 views Aug 21, 2021 1.1K Dislike Share nutnfancy 852K subscribers Another ranting reviewoh man we do not like Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns OMG! The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. 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