The other will not. In my case I have never lied, but if Im at risk of loosing my license for a medical condition that is under control I might do that also. Someday you might actually have a problem you cannot hide. But missing information will simply cause delays and more work; the medical examiner and/or the FAA's Aeromedical Certification Division in Oklahoma City, Okla., won't process an incomplete form. I am all in favour of your own doctors certificate of good health. Pilots most likely have wanted too fly since they were kids. I think a regular physical should be required, but the special AME physical in all reality boils down to a tax disguised as safety concern. Friend of mine had a partner in his business who owned a beautiful Cessna 182. I am now 75 years old, and the FAA continues to demand increasily more stringent testing to get the isssuance. Read from the question directly above the one you linked to: Long-standing FAA regulation, 61.53, prohibits all pilotsthose who are required to hold airman medical certificates and those who are notfrom exercising privileges during periods of medical deficiency. Not only is the medical certificate process flawed, so is the new AOPA iniative. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Something like 75% of all medicals that arrive in OKC come from outside the USA. The real question is; Do you trust you AME? Both asked for, and received, removal of their Special Issuance. FAX your completed Request for Airman Medical Records Form to (405) 954-9326. George ED King says: I fly for a living. Anyone who would report this immediately loses their medical and has to wait a year. He as a jet driver and as the sole pilot that might have been a problem during the flight he was scheduled for the next day. The MedXPress application In order to understand how likely it is the FAA would catch you lying, it is important to understand how they would catch you. But WHILE it is a problem for the flier, not after it is treated. Reply. The Application for Airman Medical Certification (otherwise known as MedXPress or 8500-8), needs to be filled out prior to seeing an aviation medical examiner. Seems arbitrary to me. I hope the FAA box didnt kill more. I dont feel it would be correct to try to hide a condition from these people. I am an AME and 4,000 hour pilot. Driving While Impaired (DWI) from alcohol, drugs, texting and exhaustion is obviously a serious problem and every driver self certifies, there is no evidence in the National Traffic Safety Data Base, that accidents caused by preexisting health conditions and the medications used for their treatment, is a major problem. Id had apnea for several years, napped daily once or twice. If the FAA ever decides to search to see if he is taking any prescription medications (which they dont do often, but they have the ability to do), they will most likely pull his medical permanently for falsification. I Fly America Some justify white lies by rationalizing they would just be wasting everyones time and effort by disclosing minor issues. The AME can comment on the problem stating that it no longer exists and you are not on medication in the comments section on the 8500-8 and submit it along with the note from your counsellor to the FAA and go ahead and issue your Medical Certificate. The problem with the medical certification process is that on the one hand the questions are so stringent i.e. We know that the incidence of major depression in the general population is 10%. Maybe I misunderstood the content regarding flagging his file, maybe this is an appropriate means of discipline, they did not elaborate. I go to sleep. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you. We display medical information based on FAAs Civil Aerospace Medical Institute (CAMI) medical records. There, see you did lie on your medical didnt you. Im sorry to hear that. According to Dr. Guillermo J. Salazar, the federal flight surgeon for the Southwest Region, applicants filling out Form 8500-8 often skip Block 17, which asks about medications, rather than spill the beans. If you didnt say yes then you lied. They want to approve, not deny medicals. Youd think somebody in the FAA would be ashamed of being this dumb and show a little initiative and courage to fix such obvious issues instead of burying their tiny little heads in the sand. before an incident so we know how to correct. If you cannot read the serial number plate on the airplane that just flew by you then you should not be allowed to fly. Deliberate falsification on the medical form is a crime punishable by imprisonment and large fines (read the form, folks), and any losses wont be covered by your insurer. After 7 years and three more third class medicals-the FAA medical office suddenly decided I had 30 days to provide all the records from a condition I had 20 years ago, or have my medical suspended. With a small investment of time and energy, in the beginning, it is possible to keep flying with most medical conditions as long as they are well controlled. Ill continue to go by the book until such time as the rules change, or I wish to no longer fly. Theyll wait until a couple of major airline pilots go postal or have a seizure over the threshold and get the front page bold type, then overreact totally inappropriately, and far too late. The application states once hired you must obtain a class 2 medical cert It may be that some of you folks are not involved as subcontractors to the Airframe manufacturers. What makes an airplane as a machine so different. At a certain point there is the issue of freedom vs safety. I know of several. The smart ones do. Increasing the gross weight limit of the Sport Aircraft class is a really good idea. Aviation medicals protect your lifeand a periodic physical is smart. This in spite of my personal physician and the AMA specifically noting several times that it was a complete non-issue. Global misunderstands that Procedure codes, diagnosis codes and pharmacy codes were denied protections under to ACA of 2010. If your application passes AMCDs scrutiny, the certificate your AME issued will remain valid for a period of time determined by your age and the type of certificate you applied for. Once set up by politicians, these agencies rule by fiat, for which there is no recourse. Ill continue to go by the book until such time as the rules change, or I wish to no longer fly. Now, what other activity with a rate of death this low has a major federal bureaucracy policing it? The 1320 pound (600 Kg) limit is based on the European standard, I think. And maintaining a Commercial Driver License with some illnesses is more difficult than maintaining and FAA Medical Certificate. You are proceeding at your own risk. PERIOD. What you dont want to do is lie. But, sooner or later, most pilots will develop a medical condition that they cannot hide. I have been a private pilot since 10/05/2013 I know that the medical form is a self certifying process that can have good or bad risks but you never know what the FAA has access to since their a government organization/department. My ex hubby did it yearly. I agree that the FAA has an interest in regulating commercial pilots but anyone else should have to produce a drivers license. Its only a matter of time. They leave that up to you, but just make sure you read their minds so that your interpretation matches theirs that they dont tell you. Legally, it does have to be the original. A medical exam is required for a Commercial Driver License and for working on a commercial boat carrying passengers. Here is my suggestion: Expand the gross weight of light sport airplanes to something like 1800 pounds. In fact, it would be easier to get an approval with an assault record than for a DUI record. Thank you for the post. Also my flight instructor was telling me that he knew an applicant who lied about his criminal history for shoplifting and two to three months later the FAA found out and pulled his medical currently and he did not hear back for any clearance to fly again so these are great examples why not lie. If thats not a bigger threat to safety, I dont know what is. I got my ticket after age 50. Bottom line, you are better off disclosing to the FAA if you want a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd class medical certificate. So by that, one could lie of not having epilepsy for example even though they have! Give blood, nope, they do tests on it, might find something. I have no problem with the current system. If a question comes up about whether or not a pilot is qualified to hold an FAA medical certificate, the application itself usually does not contain enough information for AMCD to make a truly informed decision. Since my late 30s, I have taken meds to control my blood pressure. I had a single bypass in 1981 and have been operating on a special issuance since. Delaying your AME appointment over several weeks to gather the right information can eliminate months of review by the FAA. Lets analyze how you got to a denial and what can be done to appeal the denial. Thanks,for the new online magazine. It says "last three years" so there's a one year overlap for us older guys applying for a third class. 2022 MedMG - All Rights Reserved No, of course you should not lie to your AME, but you should find one who knows how to work with you, and the FAA, to successfully maneuver around those inevitable issues which are bound to come up from time to time during a life of flying. The other crewmembers will consult the seniority list to see how they fare after my death. There are are more decisions that have to be made while driving than flying. Thank you for allowing me to share. Comparatively, what I take is barely more than a prescription grade Imodium AD. A manager at a Fisdo reported to CAMI that an airman was on medication and had a long hospotible stay. Anonomous, The FAA issues updates to the AME Guide on a monthly basis. Trying to fix an accidental lie on my medical. This is one of those typical government deny-theres-a-problem attitudes that eventually comes to a head when something major and catastrophic happens. Heres a guy who was never diagnosed with depression or showed any signs of it, but still completed the act so feared by these administrators. May just you please lengthen them a little from next time? What a great time you both will have. Skydiving. From the details they ask about, you would think you were applying to be an astronaut. For example, what if one is tired or snores. Neither IFA, nor Paul Engstrom assume any responsibility or liability for events that occur due to actions you or others on your behalf take based on the information given in this article. If they have any concerns about your eligibility to hold a medical certificate, AMEs can also deny your application or defer your certification to the FAA for further review. I dont remember the exact incidence of pilot incapacitations that they quote at the AME seminars, but it is extremely low. should not fly. Ultimately, a yes response to 18m. You may think you told the truth but you absolutely did not. I manage my health daily so as to not have to place them in a position to yank my ticket or otherwise cause me not to self certify. I take my family on flights in my aircraft and there is no way I am going to put them at risk. The whole thing is about safety but the FAA has never proven the need for the medicals, especially the third class, it was just randomly instituted one day a long time ago. The AME guide expands on that question to unexplained unconsciousness. The AME Guide is available to all pilots on the FAA website. The medical only looks at your health at the point in time. Auto correct makes illiterates of us all. It explains a lot of stuff that seems ridiculous, like have you ever been unconscious. I would have assumed since this person had been flying for awhile, and flying solo that they would have imposed sanctions such as the ones discussed above. I see a lack of evidence that this saves lives. The 3rd class medical crosses the line where freedom is unreasonably denied in the pursuit of absolute safety. The FAA processes close to 400,000 flight physicals every year. Try to determine why it is required of you, but not others, with OSA. If your medical expires, there is nothing to stop you from continuing to fly. If you ever need to submit medical records to the FAA, they will review everything you give them. It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. (BTW, I am a member of both.) If your AME does not spot anything on your physical exam, you have a clean driving record and you have never served in the military, chances are that the FAA will not question the information you submit in MedXPress. :-) However, since I do really like flying, it does make one avoid looking too hard for problems. The process is so closed ,opaque, and bureaucratic. The big question is whether it matters. It is possible that the Emirates authorities will check to see if he can make an attempt at a complete sentence with capitalization and punctuation. But then how would all the AMEs and some people in the FAA make a living??? This is truly a Great Debate. Until the rules change, abide by them, and make sure you self monitor. Special Issuance medical exams can cost more. Pedestrian deaths 5300 There is a good chance you can hide some minor medical problems or even some major ones that you recovered from years ago. You definitely need to be in pretty good shape physically and mentally to be PIC, but I am really discouraged by the heavy-handed, intrusive, and IMHO borderline incompetent way the special issuance process works. Assuming you appropriately responded to one of these three questions, your application was likely deferred and the FAA sent you a letter, requesting medical records. Skye, you may be a little over the top with your attitude but not by all that much. Two years later fifty percent of the same Medical Board had differences of opinion, and being naturally frustrated I decided to visit UK, and was told by specialists there that systolic heart murmur does not prevent me from flying. As a pilot for over 13 years and now an AME as of this month, I understand your concern. While I dont think most will lie on their medicals, I feel that some will if they have an issue and are in fear of losing their certificate(s). It doesnt work like that in mental health cases, and probably never will. Most pilots I know plan to fly for longer than it takes one or two medical certificates to expire. This is likely true for those receiving social security disability benefits as well, What Happens When the FAA gets Suspicious. Id probably be in better shape if I *wasnt* a pilot since Id feel free to take advantage of those things, whereas now theyre just traps, ways to lose the ability to fly. Regardless of whether or not you would get caught, a better question to ask is why would you try to get away with it? Let me start with a word of advice: DONT DO IT. Even if you can disprove a legitimate history or diagnosis of ADHD (discussed further below), use of a disqualifying medication within 90 days of application will usually lead to a denial. Its just not opening an unnecessary can of worms. It's not those. Responding to a letter from the FAA about your medical certificate almost always requires you to provide detailed notes from your treating physician(s) and other objective evidence to show you are safe to fly. My new AME, (old one finally retired,) is a pilot, as is his wife, the office manager and head nurse. They may only get 3rd class, but they are flying with strict guidelines on preflight accu check, inflight accu check, etc. We only use the I am in full support of the exemption and hope you will support it too; after all, it has worked for the Sport program and it seems it will work for you! The flight surgeon is not my friend. Yes, all my discussion was only applicable to private, recreational pilots, not airline or large freight liner pilots. Over forty years I have watched the change from Aryan superman standards to wheelchair/ limbless PPL pilots. Unfortunate as those events are, they do NOT cause accidents. As a 74 year old pilot, I feel that seeing the Aviation Doc every two years is good for my health. My AME is my regular Doctor. Also why does your local AME put something on your report and call it insignificant but 6 months later the FAA makes a federal case of it and wants more tests for this insignificant thing. If you decide to undergo a physical despite questionable health, first gather all medical documents, such as a letter from your family doctor stating that a condition has been treated and resolved, and present them to the AME. It sure would eliminate a lot of phone calls and digging through files for me. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. However, the overriding principle here is that if you intentionally falsify your medical and are discovered, then you are done permanently. Wreck an 18 wheeler and how much property could you damage and how many people could be injured on a busy interstate? Military veterans should also be aware that the FAA now routinely cross-references your VA disability rating when determining your eligibility for a medical certificate. Bungee jumping. Keep in mind that the FAA receives something like 430,000 8500-8 each year. The odds of a passenger catching Covid-19 on a flight and dying from the virus are less than one in half a million. The only variable is about what. Dr. House. You can be a Sport Pilot if you have never had your FAA medical denied. Why is such a standard not imposed on motorcycle or car owners ? I on the other hand can only fly sport and do when I can find a plane to rent. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. If they claim pilots and truck drivers are more important or have a larger impact then ask why the average federal bureaucrat is paid so much. Needless to say, I dont have my class 3 medical now. You want to be an ATP, you have two pilots. 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My first experience with an AMI was when I applied for a job with the government and was required to take a physical exam. I do not think that there is anybody who does not lie or has not lied at one time or another. I just recently got my Cat 1 medical, and honestly the doctor is pretty thorough when it comes to examining his patient, everything from blood pressure to ECG. I hope you realize a world that had perfect safety would be one not worth living in. In short, the FAA doesnt check medical records unless they have a reason to i.e. Should I mention this to my AME? With the right preparation, you can navigate the process efficiently. One DUI is not disqualifying. Any law or rule, which is widely viewed by those subject to its enforcement as being unfair, unjust, capricious and arbitrary, because it has no basis in fact, will be disrespected and thus unenforceable. What are the chances you will get caught? So, instead of less regulation, we need more and along with that comes enforcement. Died of a massive heart attack. If you qualify for an FAA medical certificate, they will issue it to you at the end of your appointment, document your exam findings, and transmit your application to the FAA. You are very nave about physicians income from doing FAA medicals. Hey Guys as you know there is nothing private on the internet. I am a nurse and I see it all of the time. Why do we have a federal bureaucracy policing such a low number of casualties? Your signature at the bottom authorizes the FAA to search the National Drivers Registry for violations involving alcohol or illegal drugs, for instance, so you may want to think twice about trying to conceal a drunk driving conviction. Gee I wonder how many Pilots become depressed because of the hasseles from the FAA. whether, in their life, have they been diagnosed with, had, or presently have a history of ADHD. 13. Where is this regulation? In this case, you can cast doubt on the original diagnosis and attempt to avoid further evaluation. Who would you send them to? When I joined the military, it popped up at MEPs and I had to complete a waiver but I was allowed to go to boot camp. Instead, they send a letter asking for more information from you and your doctors. Because of the Medical, no physician is my friend and neither are their nurses because they can enter accurate or inaccurate information into your record either one of which will condemn you. He was convinced if he had the physical and they discovered something bad, hed have to admit it to the AME. Federal employees should qualify for at least a class three medical for airmen and let us toss in the medication list and drug testing for commercial drivers. Syed, I know of several pilots who have useful vision in only one eye or have amblyopia that makes it impossible for them to pass the eye exam. While my husband sailed through after having lied. Speaking as a pilot, I think that there should be a way to maintain certification for those of us flying recreationally without having to see an AME every 2 years. John has been quoted or mentioned in major publications, including Chron, Flying Mag, and National Review. That is why the FAA doesnt sanction Mr. Diabetes as Dickie would like. If the FAA knew the real medical condition of most pilots, they would loose thier certificates too. Note, denial is different from deferral. We should not be subjected to this inquisitional questionnaire in the first place. Type 2 diabetes, with oral medication, receiving a special issuance every year, until this last one, when the FAA generously determined my AME could recertify me, annually, for five years. After 30 years without a problem, one would think the risk of incapacitation is no greater than the general pilot population flying on a normal class III medical. I can see a medical for commercial operators, just like Bus drivers, but that is all. All pilots know that after taking the physical they self-certify before every flight for the next year or two. He issued my medical with a waiver. Back when I was an F/O we flew in airplanes with single head radios. And two complete submittals of blood tests. But it doesnt because the public wouldnt tolerate it. This is left bundle branch block which is a stop as far as the CAA is concerned. I would like to see how many incidents of NOT seeking medical attention, due to knowing that the FAA will pull their ticket, have led to problems. I hesitated to contact the FAA as I didnt want to deprive this man of his dream to be a pilot but the risk of harm to himself and to others was greater than His Dream so I sent a detailed letter. If you have ever been denied a medical, you still cannot go in and just use your drivers license. They generally do not spend a significant amount of time reviewing each one. For Uncle Sam, though, this is anything but a judgment call. Question:Do you think most pilots fib on applications for medical certificates? The FAA requires applicants with a diagnosis of epilepsy to be seizure-free for 10 years without medication before being considered for a medical certificate. But here is where the absurdity of this over zealous pursuit of perfect safety is to be seen: Society cares little about helping people with mood disorders beyond marginalizing them and throwing them into a risk factor category and dismissing their issues. Fill up the plane and navigate for them. KL, When that happens, your whole medical history will come under review. You never know what will happen to a pilot in flight with his medical conditions. I can understand, in the last 5 years, but most of my things are now 20 years old and I still have to report them-no change. Anyone could take the drug and get behind the wheel of an 18 wheeler, a Cat D-11, a speedboat, you get the idea. The FAA has panels of civilian medical experts for each speciality who meet regularly to review the FAA medical regulations and recommend changes based on new research. I dont think the FAA realizes that pilots arent average human beings. Im old, crazy and hard of hearing bit like most experienced pilots I suppose. On the other hand, the 3rd class questionnaire seems more like screening for As for lying on the medical form, lies can be undiscovered for a lifetime of flying, but if there is an incident or accident, the FAA and/or NTSB will dredge up every doctor visit, medication, hospitalization they can. What was yours for if you dont mind me asking. Every child at some point decides to spin around and around until they are dizzy and fall down. That is when the truth will come out. Anymore stringent than the First Class Medical is now would end up grounding many older pilots. The big question is, though, whether it matters. If after that the FAA denied your application, you can seek reconsideration of that denial by making a few substantive arguments. How does the FAA find out what medications you are on? SO ITS FLY TILL I DIE OR GO TO PRISON. Also, if I lose my medical, Id save a ton of money on flying and could retire a good 10-15 years earlier! With over 20,000 hours of real world experience, much of it in Cessna 172s and P210s, Collins wrote about safety, weather and air traffic control from first-hand experience. If you dont take a medication NOW, it does not need to be reported. But, it was not the fault of the FAA, it was mine for not verifying the doctors statement before submitting it. Requesting Medical Records. instead of just listening to the engine, watch the instruments that monitored the engine. There are heart transplant pilots flying. There are too many who are afraid of liability. Some do it by mistake. I have to say, this doc was thorough, checked everything, but, when he saw that attachment with all that exposure, he looked at me in a way like what is all this. You would not be alone, as there are many older pilots that fly with conditions that would disqualify them from getting the Third Class medical. How Likely is it that the FAA will Catch You? How do we know that health issues rarely cause flying accidents? From a practical standpoint, it makes the most sense. If you can pass a regular physical, youre probably in good enough shape to fly, physically, anyway. He started his career working with his father, Leighton Collins, at the original Air Facts magazine. The 8500-8 of necessity must be brief and it is very difficult to get authorization to change it. The best advice we can give you is to visit an aviation medical examiner (AME). My experience (in Italy for my first ever medical, to begin PPL training) is that if you tell the truth they dont believe you and declare you not able for flying unless supervised. People are who they are. Since I asked to have myself tested for apnea, and found it was a problem, and now use a Constant Positive Air Pressure (CPAP) machine, FAA dogs me annually. In the FAA world view you are not telling the truth. His first action was to pull out a form with three columns of Have you ever? items each requiring a yes/no response. Also, if you are too young for that, they can check other insurance companies and, apparently, a company, McKesson I believe, that gathers and compiles statistical data from and for insurance companies. First, if youve not taken a disqualifying medication for greater than 90 days, you can potentially argue to the FAA that your underlying diagnosis was not accurate to begin with. 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